May in a straitjacket

House of Lords tie Theresa May’s hands for Brexit negotiations.

I have always been a strong advocate of the House of Lords. As a counterbalance to left-leaning or socialist governments, I saw some merit in having heads of families who have a longer term view on the future of Britain than the next election.

But if I was asked today to vote for or against the House of Lords, I think I would have to vote for their abolition.

It is one thing to say to the government, on this or that matter you should think again, this legislation is a poorly worded or the like is one thing. But to say of the expressed mind of the electorate, we must have our six pennies worth. I believe they have overstepped their role.

What have they done?

Peers backed a Labour-led amendment by 366 to 268 to give parliament a veto over the final outcome of Brexit negotiations. (List of Peers who voted against the government can be seen here.) In effect, this is a veto over the final outcome of Theresa May’s Brexit negotiations both in the House of Commons and then in the Lords.

So May and her team go to Europe, negotiate a deal, but as time is running out to reach a deal, she has to keep saying, “I will have to see if my mum and dad will let me go to the party.” I mean will parliament agree to this deal.

The outcome.

Theresa May just can not allow herself and her negotiating team to be put in this position.

She will have to crush this amendment in the Commons or will end up having to take this back to the country in a general election asking for a full mandate to negotiate with a free hand. But even if she is able to overturn this amendment in the Commons, I believe it will then have to go to the Lords yet again. As it were daring them to again overturn the supremacy of the Commons.

It is bad enough that May and her team will know they can not make a deal, but Europe will know too and will be able to send her back time and time again with deals that the UK government ould not possibly agree and can run the clock out on her.

Lords losing a great deal of support from the country.

On top of putting Theresa May in an unenviable position, I believe that the Lords have taken a big sledgehammer to the foundations of the House of Lords.

 

 

 

House of Lords

113 Lords view for second referendum!

113 Lords have taken the undemocratic view that we keep asking until the voters give us the answer that we want.

Well, that is what it looks like.

2 Tory Peers, 22 Labour and 89 Liberal Democrats, have voted for a second referendum before the UK can leave the European Union.

Fortunalty they lost, but what would happen in they could just keep calling elections until they are happy with the result?

Conservative
Altmann, Baroness
Wheatcroft, Baroness

Crossbench
Butler of Brockwell, Lord
Clancarty, Earl
Freyberg, Lord
Haskins, Lord
Hastings of Scarisbrick, Lord
Kidron, Baroness
Krebs, Lord
Low of Dalston, Lord
Rees of Ludlow, Lord
Sandwich, Earl
Somerset, Duke
Stern of Brentford, Lord
Warner, Lord

Labour
Bach, Lord
Bakewell, Baroness
Cashman, Lord
Corston, Baroness
Crawley, Baroness
Davies of Stamford, Lord
Faulkner of Worcester, Lord
Foulkes of Cumnock, Lord
Giddens, Lord
Hain, Lord
Irvine of Lairg, Lord
Judd, Lord
Kennedy of The Shaws, Baroness
Kinnock of Holyhead, Baroness
Liddle, Lord
Lipsey, Lord
Morgan, Lord
Morris of Handsworth, Lord
Rooker, Lord
Royall of Blaisdon, Baroness
Tomlinson, Lord
Watts, Lord

LibDem
Addington, Lord
Allan of Hallam, Lord
Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon, Lord
Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville, Baroness
Barker, Baroness
Beith, Lord
Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, Baroness
Bowles of Berkhamsted, Baroness
Bradshaw, Lord
Brinton, Baroness
Bruce of Bennachie, Lord
Burnett, Lord
Burt of Solihull, Baroness
Campbell of Pittenweem, Lord
Chidgey, Lord
Clement-Jones, Lord
Cotter, Lord
Dholakia, Lord
Doocey, Baroness
Fearn, Lord
Featherstone, Baroness
Foster of Bath, Lord
Fox, Lord
Garden of Frognal, Baroness
German, Lord
Goddard of Stockport, Lord
Grender, Baroness
Hamwee, Baroness
Harris of Richmond, Baroness
Humphreys, Baroness
Hussain, Lord
Janke, Baroness
Jolly, Baroness
Jones of Cheltenham, Lord
Kirkwood of Kirkhope, Lord
Kramer, Baroness
Lester of Herne Hill, Lord
Ludford, Baroness
Macdonald of River Glaven, Lord
Maclennan of Rogart, Lord
Maddock, Baroness
Marks of Henley-on-Thames, Lord
McNally, Lord
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, Baroness
Newby, Lord
Northover, Baroness
Oates, Lord
Paddick, Lord
Palmer of Childs Hill, Lord
Parminter, Baroness
Pinnock, Baroness
Purvis of Tweed, Lord
Randerson, Baroness
Razzall, Lord
Redesdale, Lord
Rennard, Lord
Roberts of Llandudno, Lord
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, Lord
Scott of Needham Market, Baroness
Scriven, Lord
Sharkey, Lord
Sheehan, Baroness
Shipley, Lord
Shutt of Greetland, Lord
Steel of Aikwood, Lord
Stephen, Lord
Stoneham of Droxford, Lord
Storey, Lord
Strasburger, Lord
Stunell, Lord
Suttie, Baroness
Taverne, Lord
Taylor of Goss Moor, Lord
Teverson, Lord
Thomas of Gresford, Lord
Thomas of Winchester, Baroness
Thornhill, Baroness
Thurso, Viscount
Tope, Lord
Tyler of Enfield, Baroness
Tyler, Lord
Vallance of Tummel, Lord
Verjee, Lord
Wallace of Saltaire, Lord
Wallace of Tankerness, Lord
Walmsley, Baroness
Watson of Richmond, Lord
Willis of Knaresborough, Lord
Wrigglesworth, Lord

Other
Elis-Thomas, Lord
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, Lord
Smith of Finsbury, Lord
Tonge, Baroness
Wigley, Lord

Thankfully, they lost.

Brexit image

Brexit bill should finish in the Lords today.

Dispight our many worries that the whole Brexit process will at some point be derailed… the process is still moving forward.

Today the House of Lords will continue its examination of the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal), Bill.

The House of Lord will be looking at the bill in report stage and third reading. Report stage is a further chance to examine the bill and make changes, while third reading is an opportunity to ‘tidy up’ the bill. The two stages are scheduled to take place on the same day, which is unusual in the House of Lords.

There are a number of troubling amendments, but these can be dealt with when it returns to the house of commons if necessary.

Let us pray that the Lord will have his way in this matter.

You can read the amendments for debate here.

And watch the debate from 11am here.